Tuxedo Mask vs. Moonlight Knight

[PrimoPiccolo]

I've noticed a lot of people love the interim Sailor Scout bailer-out, the Moonlight Knight.??So, I thought this was a very valid question.

Which handsome, cloaked, rose-and-prose-slinging hero floated your boat the most?


Me, I'm not big on either of them, but you rarely get to see a superhero in a tux.??I'll pick TM.

[Neo Moonlight Knight]

The Moonlight Knight of course. Who else fought you and gave you great quotes? at the same time I may be biased though. *Whistles*

[Sugar Baby]

It's always hard for me to chose between incarnations of the same person...I'd have to watch the series again. I remember loving Tuxedo Mask and when Moonlight Knight has his brief stint I enjoyed him, too. It's probably a toss up for me. Can I just say I love Darien?:D

~Sugar Baby

[Neo Moonlight Knight]

I'll have to post some episodes where the Moonlight Knight is on the scene. he rocks. *Whistles*

[PrimoPiccolo]

It's always hard for me to chose between incarnations of the same person...
But Darien and the Moonlight Knight were in the same room together, remember? LOL

[christphern]

I can't really stand either, but, then again, I hate the anime Mamoru/Darien, so I guess I'm biased. However, Moonlight Knight was infinitely better than Tuxedo Kamen, so MK get's my vote.

Chris

[Neo Moonlight Knight]

I can't really stand either, but, then again, I hate the anime Mamoru/Darien, so I guess I'm biased.??However, Moonlight Knight was infinitely better than Tuxedo Kamen, so MK get's my vote.

Chris


COOL! you're my new best friend. lol

[Sugar Baby]

I'll have to post some episodes where the Moonlight Knight is on the scene. he rocks. *Whistles*

Yeah!:D


It's always hard for me to chose between incarnations of the same person...
But Darien and the Moonlight Knight were in the same room together, remember? LOL

Yeah, but then Moonlight Knight dove into Darien and gave him his memory back... It was Darien without ever being Tuxedo Mask and Moonlight Knight was Darien's other half who still desired to protect the scouts, only in another form.
I just had a thought...did anyone ever touch Moonlight Knight?


I can't really stand either, but, then again, I hate the anime Mamoru/Darien, so I guess I'm biased. However, Moonlight Knight was infinitely better than Tuxedo Kamen, so MK get's my vote.
Chris

Why do you hate the anime Mamoru/Darien? Just curious.:shy:


COOL! you're my new best friend. lol

LOL

~Sugar Baby

P.S. Oh, hey, Neo, it's off-topic, but I've been meaning to ask you. What Pokemon episode is your avatar from?

[christphern]

I don't know, really. There's just something about his anime personality that grates on my last nerve. I mean, disregarding the fact that he's an idiot in matters not pertaining to his classes (ie. his love life), he was a complete jerk to Usagi when he first met her, and didn't really get that much better as their relationship progressed.

Now, I have nothing against Mamoru, in and of himself. Just the anime version. I actually rather liked his Live Action counterpart. In fact, aside from Minako-chan, Rei, and Artemis, he was my favourite character. Quite an improvement over the anime version, in my opinion. He actually seemed to be a positive influence in Usagi's life, whereas the anime version only seemed to cause her pain and grief as a result of his stupidity, not to mention his "I know what's best for you, so sit down and shut up" attitude toward her.

Just a personal opinion, though. Not to be taken as fact.

The thing I think most bothered me about anime Mamoru is that he was supposed to love Usagi. However, in nigh every episode, he would show up, toss a rose (A rose? What the heck? What did he do, spend hours whittling them from solid chunks of carbon-steel?), say a cheesy line, and disappear not to appear until his next oppurtinity to spout retarded lines that no one wants to hear. And, to top it off, he would show up when the senshi were getting their butts handed to them by some youma, do his "thing", and then disappear leaving them to fight the youma by themselves. The same youma that was handing them their butts in a sling two seconds before he popped on the scene. In the anime he was a completely useless character used only for the sake of his appearance in the manga, and occasionally further the show's plot. A role that could have been filled by any number of characters, aside from loyalty to the source material.

*sigh* Sorry, I'm ranting.

Moonlight Knight was still Mamoru, in most senses, but he was a lot less annoying, and a lot lighter on the cheese. Also, for being non-corporeal, if memory serves, he did a lot more than Mamoru did as Tuxedo Kamen up to that point. Even when TK was evil, he was still throwing his stupid roses, and spouting retarded lines. The only difference? They weren't "positive" messages anymore. Then, as usual, he'd disappear, never doing much.

As for Mamoru and MK appearing in the same scene together, let's just say Mamoru has so bad a case of schizophrenia that even other people see his delusions. :D

Chris

[PrimoPiccolo]

Oh, hey, Neo, it's off-topic, but I've been meaning to ask you. What Pokemon episode is your avatar from?
Wouldn't know the Japanese, but it's from episode #317 (Advanced Challenge episode #4) "A Togepi Mirage!". Togepi evolves into Togetic to save a group of fellow Togepi from an evil colonel who wants to overthrow his king. After succeeding in defeating him, Togetic stays with the Togepi to keep something like that from happening again, and Misty says a heartfelt good-bye to her baby.

[Neo Moonlight Knight]

In defense of my other half Tuxedo Kamen.. At the beginning he din't really know who he was until he unmorphed in one occasion to find out he was darien.

Moonlight Knight helped the scouts a lot. specially on the episode: "A knight to remenber"(I dunno the Japanese name of the episode.) where that cardian lion was kicking everyone's arses he fend it off.

I'll post quotes from Tuxedo Mask and Moonlight Knight later on. Also chris.. I read an essay once about the Sexism on Sailor moon, which included some of your argutments about the anime Tuxedo Kamen.

[christphern]

Interesting. I haven't ever read it, I don't believe.

I have nothing against the idea of Mamoru, or Tuxedo Kamen, just the way the character was presented in the anime. He was awesome in PGSM. I just wish the anime had done something with him to justify his existance, you know? I just hate useless characters that are just there because they were there in another version. He only ever seemed to take up space as Mamoru/Tuxedo Kamen. MK, on the other hand, as has been pointed out, did a lot to help the senshi, actually fighting youma's on occasion, if memory serves. The only things or people I seem to recall TK fighting directly were Zoicite and Kunzite.

Also, I'd like to appologise for my last post. I hopped on a soapbox and started ranting. Sorry about that.

Chris

[Sugar Baby]

Wouldn't know the Japanese, but it's from episode #317 (Advanced Challenge episode #4) "A Togepi Mirage!". Togepi evolves into Togetic to save a group of fellow Togepi from an evil colonel who wants to overthrow his king. After succeeding in defeating him, Togetic stays with the Togepi to keep something like that from happening again, and Misty says a heartfelt good-bye to her baby.

Oh that's so sad. It reminds me of Pikachu's Good-bye, but they actually went through with it.
Thanks again, Primo. You're a well of knowledge, aren't you?:D

~Sugar Baby

[Neo Moonlight Knight]

guys, pass down over General discussion I posted the essay that I told chris about. it makes greats points

[PrimoPiccolo]

Thanks again, Primo. You're a well of knowledge, aren't you?:D
Eh, one of my friends has referred to me as the "official teller of stuff" before. LOL

[Sugar Baby]

Eh, one of my friends has referred to me as the "official teller of stuff" before. LOL

:D PrimoPiccolo: Official Teller Of Stuff. It has a certain ring to it. :P

~Sugar Baby

[Neo Moonlight Knight]

This topic is getting insteresting by the minute.

[PrimoPiccolo]

As insteresting as your spelling errors? LMAO