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Uncle Steve 02/20/18 12:21 PM

What if Doug and Ann stayed
 
What if they stayed for the whlle Disney era?

Green With Envy 02/20/18 05:47 PM

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Thats a good question. i would think you would have gotten less Sentai elements and whatever was carried over would have been done to benefit rhe original PR storylines. I would hate to give up SPD. But it also would have been interesting to see how Doug and Ann would have adapted Dekaranger.

Hasbro Ranger 02/20/18 05:52 PM

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I think SPD would have still been set in the future. But there would have been less of the characters reseting and having to relearn lessons. Of course said characters would have been a kowt different. As would the actors since different people would have been in charge. I think Doug would have fkught to do something more interesting with his version of Omega Ranger.

No Green Spandex 02/20/18 05:56 PM

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I don't think its a lock that they would have used Doggie Cruger. So Shadow Ranger could have also been very different. it would have been interesting to see them handle the DinoThunder team up. But they probably would have brought Tommy back again. Which wouldn't have been good.

Lightspeed Zeo 02/20/18 05:58 PM

Re: What if Doug and Ann stayed
 
I don't think Ninja Storm and DinoThunder was as good as some people say.

Captain Codfish 02/20/18 06:02 PM

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I don't think Mystic Force would have been so reliant on the Sentai. Especially in the second half. We would have had an original villian. The Nick focus wouldn't have been as strong. The side characters wouldn't have overshadowed the Rangers.

MattEmily 02/20/18 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Codfish (Post 74893)
I don't think Mystic Force would have been so reliant on the Sentai. Especially in the second half. We would have had an original villian. The Nick focus wouldn't have been as strong. The side characters wouldn't have overshadowed the Rangers.

I halfway agree with this but I don't think Mystic Force would've had an original villain they had enough villains as it was

PRangerX 02/20/18 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEmily (Post 74894)
I halfway agree with this but I don't think Mystic Force would've had an original villain they had enough villains as it was

We may have had a human villain that was original to MF. And the magi villains as henchmen.

MattEmily 02/20/18 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 74898)
We may have had a human villain that was original to MF. And the magi. vilrlians as henchmen

Morticon wasn't a henchmen he was the leader just like Astronema was the leader and Diabolico was the leader. Imperious took over for Morticon much like Olympius did when Diabolico was destroyed and then the Ten Terrors were also leaders except Sculpin was the leader of the Ten Terrors.

PRangerX 02/20/18 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEmily (Post 74899)
Morticon wasn't a henchmen he was the leader just like Astronema was the leader and Diabolico was the leader. Imperious took over for Morticon much like Olympius did when Diabolico was destroyed and then the Ten Terrors were also leaders except Sculpin was the leader of the Ten Terrors.

They could have adated it differently and had an original base.

MattEmily 02/21/18 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 74903)
They could have adated it differently and had an original base.

generally they didn't change much of the Sentai villains usually they just changed their tone or how they came to be.

No Green Spandex 02/21/18 11:41 AM

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NS and DinoThunder both had original bases.

Goldar's Revenge 02/21/18 11:45 AM

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If it were up to Sloan they would have done an original villian in MF. But I suspect MF wouldn't have even have been MF. It would have been very different.

Jungle Master 02/21/18 11:47 AM

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I agree with Matt, there wasn't enough wiggle room for an original villian in Mystic Force.

MattEmily 02/21/18 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by No Green Spandex (Post 74913)
NS and DinoThunder both had original bases.

original bases is one thing (they were going to need to re-create original scenes of the Hurricanger base so either way they were going to need to spend some money on it) so they just opted for an original base. Same thing with Dino Thunder they were going to have to re-shoot scenes as well so it was better to just go for an original base but you can't really change the episode source footage.

Kapri and Marah are idiots in our version but they're a little more serious in Sentai not too serious but they're not really buffoons like Kapri and Marah are.

Zurgane was basically the same only he's an alien being who isn't a puppet but in Sentai he's nothing more than a human suit for a little bug creature that's controlling him like a puppet.

Motodrone was pretty similar in tone if I recall correctly but he had various forms.

Shimazu was more serious compared to his Sentai counterpart who was basically the comic relief member.

Vexacus was more traitorous compared to his counterpart.

Green With Envy 02/22/18 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEmily (Post 74927)
original bases is one thing (they were going to need to re-create original scenes of the Hurricanger base so either way they were going to need to spend some money on it) so they just opted for an original base. Same thing with Dino Thunder they were going to have to re-shoot scenes as well so it was better to just go for an original base but you can't really change the episode source footage.

Kapri and Marah are idiots in our version but they're a little more serious in Sentai not too serious but they're not really buffoons like Kapri and Marah are.

Zurgane was basically the same only he's an alien being who isn't a puppet but in Sentai he's nothing more than a human suit for a little bug creature that's controlling him like a puppet.

Motodrone was pretty similar in tone if I recall correctly but he had various forms.

Shimazu was more serious compared to his Sentai counterpart who was basically the comic relief member.

Vexacus was more traitorous compared to his counterpart.

They would have used the Sentai Villains. But I think a new base would have been made. As one as one original villain.

MattEmily 02/22/18 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Green With Envy (Post 74943)
They would have used the Sentai Villains. But I think a new base would have been made. As one as one original villain.

Sentai villains yes but who knows about a base even in the past Saban Entertainment kept Sentai bases despite needing to re-shoot a bunch.

I wouldn't count Rita's Palace in that since while it was the same building Zedd's room was in a different area that was connected to her room.

Master Vile's base had a few re-shots.

Skull Cavern mostly just had re-shots due to Vypra's American actress and Ryan but some scenes were re-shot due to content or because of Diabolico's resurrection

The Prison Ship was original but it was semi-close in design to the Sentai lair since Sentai shots were shown notably when Frax was the only one around

The Nexus was not original but most scenes were original.

Captain Mutiny 02/22/18 08:48 PM

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Its likely we would have gotten and original big bad. But his or her final form would have been The Master.

Captain Codfish 02/23/18 11:40 AM

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Its worth noting Doug and Ann were able to do a lot of their own thing with DT. They knew they were leaving so they ignored some of the memos. So DT could have been very different. And who knows what they would have been able to get away with if thry stayed long term. They probably would have fought harder than Kalish on certain things. I suspect future seasons would have been closer to Ninja Storm. More specifically, the final five episodes.

Disney Ranger 02/23/18 11:44 AM

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They wouldn't be all that different all. Disney was running the show and and a clear
vision for it. Until RPM anyway.

Green With Envy 02/23/18 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Disney Ranger (Post 74965)
They wouldn't be all that different all. Disney was running the show and and a clear vision for it. Until RPM anyway.

Disney infulenced things strongly. But there were differences between Sloan and Kalish. And of course Eddie/Lynn. The creative end was handles by the writers. Dsney just had guidelines and mandates.

Disney Ranger 02/26/18 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Green With Envy (Post 74979)
Disney infulenced things strongly. But there were differences between Sloan and Kalish. And of course Eddie/Lynn. The creative end was handles by the writers. Dsney just had guidelines and mandates.

Disney had all the power and is responsible for NS through Jungle Fury. Sloan and Kalish worked for them. Unfortunately they gave Eddie too much power for some odd reason.

KimandTommy 02/27/18 12:03 PM

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Maybe they would have found away to keep JDF around and bring back Amy Jo too.

Trooper Supreme 03/01/18 11:42 AM

Re: What if Doug and Ann stayed
 
Doug and Ann should have convinced Disney to leave PR cancelled and bring back VR Troopers. They could have used Super Sentai Footage if Toei refused to do more Metal Hero.

No Green Spandex 03/01/18 11:47 AM

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That wouldn't have made much business sense. Brining back VR Troopers was far more risky and unproven. And you had to get Power Rangers going again first. That brand was far more valuable than VR has ever been.

No More Pink 03/01/18 05:29 PM

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Perhaps there would have been no more Pink Rangers. Since NS and DT didn't have any.

MattEmily 03/01/18 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by No More Pink (Post 75198)
Perhaps there would have been no more Pink Rangers. Since NS and DT didn't have any.

they had no say in the matter. Toei did what it wanted to do in the case of Rangers, their colors and how many a season got.

Tzachor Era 03/02/18 07:36 PM

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Yes, I don't think the producers would be too worried about the suit colors. And I don't even think Tzachor could get them to change it.

Lightspeed Carter 03/03/18 12:04 PM

Re: What if Doug and Ann stayed
 
Didn't Toei shy away from Pink for awhile because of concern it didn't sell toys? Obviously that didn't last.

Massive Ego 03/03/18 08:24 PM

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The series still would have been terrible. Since NS and DT were both horrid.

No Green Spandex 03/03/18 08:31 PM

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I just hope Tommy wouldn't have been brought back after DT. But it didn't sound like he was going to come back either way.

MattEmily 03/03/18 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed Carter (Post 75224)
Didn't Toei shy away from Pink for awhile because of concern it didn't sell toys? Obviously that didn't last.

I don't know while it's true we went 3 seasons without one (Wild Force, Ninja Storm and Dino Thunder) I don't know if that was the reason.

Massive Ego 03/03/18 11:21 PM

Re: What if Doug and Ann stayed
 
I think they thought boys didn't want to buy Pink toys. But it sounds like a silly reason not to have a Pink Ranger.

Starlord 03/05/18 02:26 PM

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I think SPD wasn't that muh different from where it would have bden. Since Greg seemed to have a similar mindset to Doug and Ann. I think the real differences would have came in MF-JF.

Polly Want A Megazord 03/06/18 09:36 PM

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The Overdrive Team Up would have been more balenced.

Dino Blaze 03/06/18 09:46 PM

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I think DinoThunder would have gone on for more seasons.

Green With Envy 03/08/18 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dino Blaze (Post 75309)
I think DinoThunder would have gone on for more seasons.

Unlikely, Disney wanted to stick with the seasonal format. There would have been an adaption for Dekaranger.


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