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DoctorKosmic 12/03/14 05:40 PM

Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
I've been thinking about this, and I feel like the Neo-Saban seasons are in a separate (yet vaguely analogous) universe or continuity from the rest of PR. The sheer amount of continuity errors make me feel like it's better off just sectioning off in it's own little universe.

If Dino Charge, and future seasons ever reference the past in any way, would you prefer that I've been thinking about this, and I feel like the Neo-Saban seasons are in a separate (yet vaguely analogous) universe or continuity from the rest of PR. The sheer amount of continuity errors make me feel like it's better off just sectioning off in it's own little universe.

If Dino Charge, and future seasons ever reference the past in any way, would you prefer that they pretend Super Megaforce never happened? pretend Super Megaforce never happened?

BananaRama 12/03/14 05:41 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
Power Rangers has never been a stickler for continuity post-Lost Galaxy. It's been pretty fast and lose with continuity since 2000. I don't know why people think Super Megaforce is special.

DoctorKosmic 12/03/14 05:42 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
I think for me, it's more the fact that we have weird stuff like wherever the hell Samurai takes place. Some weird hybrid of Japan (Sentai footage aside), New Zealand, and America, which is still apparently close enough to Harwood County that Ji and Jayden can get there on their motorcycles. Lobotomy Bulk. Rich Skull. The entire mess that was Super Megaforce, including the whole "New Powers" thing.

It just seems like there was such a blatant disregard of continuity that it doesn't feel like the same universe. And considering they established RPM being a different dimension from Samurai & Megaforce, that can easily mean that RPM takes place in the main PRU, while Samurai and Megaforce are separate.

I dunno. Maybe it's just my overly critical fan brain. It just feels like these last couple of seasons have gone out of their way to somehow be a fresh start, while also trying to jump on the nostalgia wagon, leading to very bizarre disjointed seasons.

BananaRama 12/03/14 05:45 PM

re megaforce remove continity
 
[QUOTE=BananaRama;1239026]The show has been a weird hybrid of America and New Zealand since Ninja Storm. I'm not even sure what vague location has to do with continuity.

So, California, probably.

He acts no different than he has in the past.

We haven't Skull in 10 years, he could have won the lottery or married into wealth.

Which doesn't make it out of continuity. Just a misguided choice. And the show did treat them as new powers, not powers that always existed.

Like when Jason had a working tyrannosaur coin, when Rita aged like 30 years between In Space and Mystic Force, when Adam used the Black MMPR powers instead of the Green Zeo powers, when Tommy forgot he had Zeo powers, when Rita and Zedd, who married in 1995, had a son who was imprisoned for thousands of years, like when an old lady claimed there was no such thing as monsters, when Tori and Shane claimed Power Rangers aren't real. Thar sort of thing?

Considering the RPM season featured no other Rangers, I'd say the obvious answer is the exact opposite.

Plus RPM being in continuity would imply that all the Rangers before RPM, excluding the SPD Rangers, and Jen, Trip, Lucas, and Katie were killed off-screen, no thanks. Plus didn't Jen think "hey that guy I'm in love with is, is going to die with most of the rest of the world in the not too distant future...of his present"? RPM is the most self-contained season ever.


Your critical fan brain is conveniently ignoring like all the continuity snarls the series has done in the last 10 years.

DoctorKosmic 12/03/14 05:46 PM

Re: re megaforce remove continity
 
Nah, I still find those things mildly stupid, but they're easily explained, and they've been discussed to death over the years, with enough accumulated fanon where it doesn't seem much of a problem.

I suppose at the core of it, Samurai and Megaforce are just incredibly awful seasons. It really comes down to taste. I know I haven't got much of a leg to stand on. I suppose at the end of the day, it's just comfortable head canon that allows me to ignore the dreck.

BananaRama 12/03/14 05:47 PM

Re: re megaforce remove continity
 
You can easily explain most of the continuity snarls of Samurai-Super Megaforce with fanon too.

IF we're declaring awful seasons out of continuity than I declare Zeo, first half Turbo, Lost Galaxy, Wild Force, and Operation Overdrive out of continuity.

DoctorKosmic 12/03/14 05:48 PM

Re: re megaforce remove continity
 
I suppose I worded it badly. It's not so much that it's out of continuity as such, just that I imagine there's a variety of alternate universes. And the thing is, the series has been awful enough that nobody has felt inspired to even come up with fanon to explain these things. I just see people wishing it never happened.

Antiyonder 12/03/14 05:49 PM

Re: re megaforce remove continity
 
Ironically enough, I think part of why Samurai felt like it was trying to be a fresh start is that some of the staff had little to no regard for the Disney Seasons and at most wanted them declared non-canon or have nothing to do with them.

Hence, if there is another anniversary commemoration, I'd rather than any creative team just makes a solid effort to respect the franchise history and not snub something just because they don't like it (i.e. be professionals).

DoctorKosmic 12/03/14 05:50 PM

Re: re megaforce remove continity
 
It's like they were trying to have their cake and eat it too. They tried to do a fresh start, but then they just jammed Bulk in there for no reason. Tzachor seemed to be overruled immediately about each season existing in it's own continuity (which in hindsight probably wasn't a bad idea, considering the quality..) yet it almost seemed like he still tried to enforce it in a way.

Antiyonder 12/03/14 05:51 PM

Re: re megaforce remove continity
 
^^^Honestly is there really any sign that Tzachor wanted a complete continuity sweep? Last I heard it's just the Non-Saban stuff he wanted to remove. Hence the number of Pre-Disney cast members we had back, plus half the Samurai cast and Mentor Ji. Heck, even Kevin, Mia and Antonio appeared in SMF through archive footage.

MattEmily 12/03/14 09:53 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorKosmic (Post 48653)
I've been thinking about this, and I feel like the Neo-Saban seasons are in a separate (yet vaguely analogous) universe or continuity from the rest of PR. The sheer amount of continuity errors make me feel like it's better off just sectioning off in it's own little universe.

If Dino Charge, and future seasons ever reference the past in any way, would you prefer that I've been thinking about this, and I feel like the Neo-Saban seasons are in a separate (yet vaguely analogous) universe or continuity from the rest of PR. The sheer amount of continuity errors make me feel like it's better off just sectioning off in it's own little universe.

If Dino Charge, and future seasons ever reference the past in any way, would you prefer that they pretend Super Megaforce never happened? pretend Super Megaforce never happened?

I completely disagree, all Power Rangers seasons (except for RPM) are in the same universe and continuity and even RPM is in the same universe to a degree because of its appearances in RPM and Megaforce.

There's no continuity errors in Megaforce, screw-ups or errors yes but the same can be said for practically any season in the case of making errors.

No, I would never want anyone to ever pretend that a previous season did not happen no matter how bad it was.

MattEmily 12/03/14 09:58 PM

Re: re megaforce remove continity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antiyonder (Post 48662)
^^^Honestly is there really any sign that Tzachor wanted a complete continuity sweep? Last I heard it's just the Non-Saban stuff he wanted to remove. Hence the number of Pre-Disney cast members we had back, plus half the Samurai cast and Mentor Ji. Heck, even Kevin, Mia and Antonio appeared in SMF through archive footage.

it was never said that he wanted a complete continuity sweep over the whole franchise, it was just stated that he wanted to sweep out all of the Disney-owned seasons that he was not part of which meant that Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, S.P.D, Mystic Force, Overdrive, Jungle Fury and RPM would all be part of their own continuity which I'm glad he was overruled on since even if they didn't work on those seasons they are still part of the franchise and they are still part of the continuity.

PRangerX 12/04/14 12:32 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
Saban Brands would never wipe continuity anyway. They would hurting their own brand. It would be like Disney wipping out the Star Wars prequels just because some people dont like them. I do find it funny that there was a false rumor about Sloan wanting to wipe everything after turbo whe he came back for NS. Which was total BS, only for Tzachor to essentially try to do the same thing for real.

MattEmily 12/04/14 04:07 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
I don't believe Doug would've ever done such a thing anyway people just assumed it because of Tori's comment towards Dustin in regards to Power Rangers and him reading too many comic books, it was just meant to be good nature rubbing towards 2 good friends.

I do believe Tzachor would have if he could have though but luckily someone higher up overruled him.

PRangerX 12/05/14 02:31 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
It came from the funaroverse crew. It turned out their source lied and it was sour grapes. So they refuted it. Yeah the NS added to that but Doug ended up denying that he would ever to that. And DT proves that.

powerpackers 12/16/14 05:53 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
People seem to think the Neo Saban seasons are not in continuity just cause they dont like them. Even thou there is more things in the Neo Saban Seasons that fit continuity than RPM yet people use Clash and Super Mega as proof of the opposite? Even thou everyone from Judd Lynn and Eddie to the cast/crew said RPM is it's own world. So Saban/Tzachor was just honoring those wishes.

Hell I remember somebody on rangerBoard being dead serious that Samurai's not in Continuity cause they said "Let's call all the Zords" and didnt legit call every zord from MMPR-Samurai.

MattEmily 12/16/14 08:44 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
yea I don't agree with wanting shows out-of-continuity for any reason whether it's reason they don't like them or because of mistakes that they make.

I know Eddie said that RPM was meant to be in its universe but I don't believe Chip himself actually said such a thing he just left it up to our own imaginations until it was actually stated on-screen if it ever was.

The "call all the zords" thing is usually there in a lot of the seasons so that really wouldn't be a valid reason to want to remove something from a season. Dino Thunder even had such a popular line like that.

Like I said earlier mistakes aren't enough of a reason to take something out of continuity since it's such a common thing. Dino Thunder was very famous with this because of the famous (or infamous depending on your view) video diary.

PRangerX 12/17/14 07:55 AM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
To be fair. It would have been tough to get every single detail on previous seasons mentioned in the diary.

MMPR Forever 12/17/14 07:57 AM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
I wish every season but MMPR was removed from canon. Except the movie. Those suits were ugly.

MattEmily 12/17/14 09:16 AM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
I don't wish any season to be removed from continuity. Continuity and canon are two different things. Everything in Power Rangers is canon including the movies, the comics and the Super Legends video game but the games, the comics and MMPR The Movie are not in continuity with the actual series.

MattEmily 12/17/14 03:01 PM

Re: Does anyone else consider Megaforce out of continuity?
 
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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 49806)
To be fair. It would have been tough to get every single detail on previous seasons mentioned in the diary.

that it would have been but it would've been easier to do so if they didn't feel the need to include Ninja Storm into the video diary since a lot of us already knew of it.

Also they could have cut down on some time with some of the clips and try to speed through some of the other ones that didn't have much story to them at all.


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