"...and the Power Rangers are back! This is awesome!"

[Kamen Rider Dragoon]

I just hope they keep it somewhat similar to the orignal japanese version this time. I would love to see that...at least keep the villains the same cause that would make sense in my opinion

[Kamen Rider Decade]

Originally Posted by Ignis

I just hope they keep it soap-opera-like, like Disney had it.

He bought it because Disney mishandled, mismanaged, or whatever, thus keeping it like Disney is not going to happen. And Disney seasons were not "soap-opera-like" they were comedies and farces, absolute garbage. RPM is the exception that proves the rule. You clearly do not know what soap-opera-like actually is. Actually watch a soap opera some time.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Dragoon

I just hope they keep it somewhat similar to the orignal japanese version this time. I would love to see that...at least keep the villains the same cause that would make sense in my opinion

If you want similar to the Japanese version then fucking watch the Japanese version. Power Rangers is supposed to be an adaptation of Sentai not a translation of it with new actors. If you want a translation with new actors you are a sad excuse for a Power Rangers fan.

[Ignis]

Well whatever... As long as they have attractive actors and interesting back stories and good transitions from romance to action.

[Kamen Rider Decade]

Originally Posted by Ignis

Well whatever... As long as they have attractive actors and interesting back stories and good transitions from romance to action.

The vast majority of the Disney Rangers were not attractive, not to mention incapable of faking a decent American Accent, thus their status as actors is questionable.

As for the "romance" it was non-existent, they flirted with the idea of it but there was no actual romance.

The only thing you got right was action.

[TokuNoob]

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

He bought it because Disney mishandled, mismanaged, or whatever, thus keeping it like Disney is not going to happen.

Thank goodness.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

You clearly do not know what soap-opera-like actually is. Actually watch a soap opera some time.

Why would anyone put themselves through that kind of pain?

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

If you want similar to the Japanese version then fucking watch the Japanese version. Power Rangers is supposed to be an adaptation of Sentai not a translation of it with new actors. If you want a translation with new actors you are a sad excuse for a Power Rangers fan.

Watch the language! But, aside from that, I agree with Decade. A direct translation isn't enough. The Japanese and the American viewing audiences are entirely different, and what works in one country isn't going to work in another. As we discussed before, it has to be made pallitable to US audiences. While asking for a direct translation is too much, asking for a slightly more sophisticated show to accomidate to some of the show's aging fan base is not. A huge tactic used in 90's cartoon shows like Freakazoid and Pinky and the Brain was to keep everything down to a child's level plotwise, but still have enough of a coherent story (and a few upper-ranged jokes. "Coherent story" more applies to PatB, more so than Freakazoid) to keep their parents interested. If Power Rangers were to use a similar tactic, I think it would be beneficial. (Yet, there's no telling since those aforementioned shows were comedies to begin with.) Personally, I think Power Rangers would be more accepting to parents if it retained it's attitude of actually showing young people (i.e. teenagers) doing the right thing when another path seems more desirable, but in a more sophisticated fashion, and with deeper plot (perhaps even making the wrong choices and regretting them for their deep, story relevent consequences with lasting effects). I realize the show had tried to do it in the past, but really those moments were few and far between. I'm talking a deeper plot beyond just defeating the monster of the week, with a progressive story arc that doesn't dwell in downright silly (just visits there frequently). You wouldn't have to impress the parents, you could just make them feel better about letting their kids watch it. Perhaps RPM was like that, I don't know. I didn't have the privledge to see it on TV, and I wasn't about to go out in public and buy the DVDs. (I suppose that makes me a "sad excuse for a Power Rangers fan," but I always preferred the original series for its retro feel and nastalga factor.)But I digress. Sorry.

Being that I'm not sure if any of the above made sense, I'll shut up now.

[Kamen Rider Decade]

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

Why would anyone put themselves through that kind of pain?

Because if you are going to make a comparison have the common decency to know what the fuck you are talking about. Otherwise you prove yourself to be a useless twit and I don't respect people who are useless twits and people I don't respect get treated like the garbage they are.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

Watch the language!

I am a mod, here and I live where there is freedom of speech. If you don't like my fucking language then don't read my fucking posts you fucking useless twit.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

The Japanese and the American viewing audiences are entirely different, and what works in one country isn't going to work in another.

Correction what works in one country may not work in another country. Time Force was pretty much a copy and paste with modifications and it worked in the USA.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

Personally, I think Power Rangers would be more accepting to parents if it retained it's attitude of actually showing young people (i.e. teenagers) doing the right thing when another path seems more desirable

Oh joy fucking moral of the day garbage. Can't get anymore boring and preachy than that.

[TokuNoob]

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

Because if you are going to make a comparison have the common decency to know what the fuck you are talking about. Otherwise you prove yourself to be a useless twit and I don't respect people who are useless twits and people I don't respect get treated like the garbage they are.

That was meant as a joke. Someone's quite defensive.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

Freedom of speech jargon.

Again, joke. And if being a mod also justifies treating other forum-goers like crap, then congratulations. I'm not trying to pick a fight, so quit being so touchy.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

Correction what works in one country may not work in another country. Time Force was pretty much a copy and paste with modifications and it worked in the USA.

There are absolutes involved.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

Oh joy fucking moral of the day garbage. Can't get anymore boring and preachy than that.

Did I say drag it out into a Masters of the Universe PSA? No I did not. Subtlety is a writer's greatest asset. I know that. But all characters that are worth anything have faults. Major faults. Like Romeo, Juliet, Antigone, Tony Stark (that would be another one of those joke things, yet it's oddly fitting). If the hero is everyone's goody two-shoes and doesn't grow or change as the story progresses, then why should I care about them? Wait, hold up. Did I honestly just compare Power Rangers to William Shakespear? Man, I am losing it.

And, as a closing remark, if I wasn't allowed to make stupid mistakes and learn from them, I would no longer be the noob. Then, I'd have to change my screenname.

And that, Vern, is why you should trade me Park Place for Water Works. Know 'wut I mean...?

[Kamen Rider Decade]

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

Again, joke.

You need to improve on your comedy skills because you suck.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

And if being a mod also justifies treating other forum-goers like crap

You being a useless twit justifies that.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

I'm not trying to pick a fight, so quit being so touchy.

This ain't a fight, this is me expressing my dislike for you.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

There are absolutes involved.

There are only 2 absolutes in life, you are born & you die. Everything else is subjective. With Kamen Rider Dragoon's post it proves your "absolute" idiocy is just that idiocy.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

Did I say drag it out into a Masters of the Universe PSA? No I did not. Subtlety is a writer's greatest asset.

No matter how subtle it still have a moral of the day plot and they have no value other than trying to force feed someone elses morals down your throat. When someone tries to force their morals upon another nothing they do has any value whatsoever except their death.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

But all characters that are worth anything have faults.

Like your grammar.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

Romeo, Juliet, Antigone, Tony Stark (that would be another one of those joke things, yet it's oddly fitting).

So your idea of major faults is suicidal morons, the product of incest, and a man so weak willed he relies upon alcohol to get through life and is a traitor to his own kind. They are not heroes to be looked up to they are people to be ridiculed, mutilated, tortured, and killed.

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

If the hero is everyone's goody two-shoes and doesn't grow or change as the story progresses, then why should I care about them?

Why should I care what you care about?

Originally Posted by TokuNoob

Wait, hold up. Did I honestly just compare Power Rangers to William Shakespear? Man, I am losing it.

You lost it a long time ago.

[TokuNoob]

Are you still talking? Here, watch, I'll dissect everything you say (this'll be fun! ):

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

Because if you are going to make a comparison have the common decency to know what the fuck you are talking about. Otherwise you prove yourself to be a useless twit and I don't respect people who are useless twits and people I don't respect get treated like the garbage they are.

And I don't respect anyone who resorts to foul language and childish name-calling to make whatever point they think they have. Also, because I'm not the one who made the comparison, if there is a point buried somewhere in that confused mess of a rant it is of no consequence to me.

And since you're so keen on freedom of speech, here's another American ideal for you: Use a flyswatter where a flyswatter is an appropriate weapon. Not a sledgehammer.

You're the one freaking out over three word sentences. You're acting like a jerk and I have no problem calling you out on that.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

If you want similar to the Japanese version then fucking watch the Japanese version. Power Rangers is supposed to be an adaptation of Sentai not a translation of it with new actors. If you want a translation with new actors you are a sad excuse for a Power Rangers fan.

Followed by:

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

Correction what works in one country may not work in another country. Time Force was pretty much a copy and paste with modifications and it worked in the USA.

Then by your own argument that makes you a sad excuse for a Power Rangers fan (personally, I find it emmensely amusing you even bother making a distinction). If it may work, then why did you freak out on Ignis for asking for a show more akin to the sentai?

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

This ain't a fight, this is me expressing my dislike for you.

Thanks for letting me know I got your goat.

Originally Posted by Kamen rider Decade

No matter how subtle it still have a moral of the day plot and they have no value other than trying to force feed someone elses morals down your throat. When someone tries to force their morals upon another nothing they do has any value whatsoever except their death.

Okay, I'm going to explain this again. This time through example. So let's take an analytical view at Earthsea. Shall we?

Ged is a young blacksmith who wants to be a sorceror. Eventually, Ged manages to land a place in a school for sorcerory, makes several friends and one irritating rival. So Ged, in an act of anger and pride, casts a spell he shouldn't, inadvertantly unleashing a gibbish, a nightmarish spectre which posseses the living and feeds on their essence. Now that it's loose, the gibbish wants nothing more to do then find the all-powerful wizard who summoned him, consume him, and take his power. Ged sets out to destroy the gibbish, but in his mission he is sidetracked on a quest to mend the Amulet of Peace.

So, had Ged never conjured the gibbish, he never would've mended the amulet, and never would've ended the reign of a dictator. So Earthsea is about coming to terms with yourself, correcting your own mistakes, and doing one better than that. It's good storytelling with a good message which is still hugely entertaining. That's why Earthsea is a great piece of literature, which became an excellent movie, and Power Rangers is a crappy show designed to hawk Bandai's Sentai toys to American kids. This is what I'm talking about, not moral of the day.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

You need to improve on your comedy skills because you suck.

You being a useless twit justifies that.

You can tell the soap-opera crack is a joke because soaps don't cause physical pain (just the therapy thereafter).

And since I'm such a twit, here's an old proverb I'd like to share. It goes something like:

Never argue with a fool.
They'll drag you down to their level,
then beat you with experience.

If I'm the fool in this, I have the advantage. So thanks. Thank you very much.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Decade

They are not heroes to be looked up to they are people to be ridiculed, mutilated, tortured, and killed.

Hercules murdered his own family, Beowulf can be viewed as being as much a monster as anything he fought, and Jessie James is considered by many to have been a hero. People's view as to what a hero is have always been a bit skewed. If you don't like it, take it up with a higher power.

P.S., thanks for trying to force feed me your morals.