What was up with the Sailor elements?

PrimoPiccolo · 11/01/06, 03:34 PM

I was talking about this with my brother the other day. The elements of the Sailor Scouts were extremely varied from the planets their power was supposed to come from.

Mercury's basis is water, yet Mercury is the hottest planet, being so close to the Sun. Mars' power is then fire, yet Mars itself is quite cold. Jupiter's powers already range somewhere between thunder and wood, yet neither originate on the actual planet Jupiter. And Uranus' power is ground or rock or something, while Uranus is actually one of the more watery planets in our solar system.

Then there's the fact that both Mercury and Neptune intercede with the water element, so the way I thought it out, couldn't the powers have been more varied? Some of the ideas were brilliant, like Venus having love as her weapon, since the Roman goddess of love was Venus. And Pluto and Saturn's powers don't hail from elements at all, so it's not like they were tied down to anything basis-wise.

In the end it doesn't bother me, but couldn't it have been done more creatively somehow?

Neo Moonlight Knight · 11/03/06, 07:11 PM

Pluto on the Roman/Greek Mythology was the god of hell, Hades. that's why her attack is called: "Dead scream" and she wears black. But the time thing, doesn't fit her. They mixed Hades with Chronos.

Saturn.. I forgot her mythology

christphern · 11/04/06, 06:00 AM

Saturn was the god of time, or Chronos. Pluto was the god of the underworld, or Hades.

They were backwards.

Chris

PrimoPiccolo · 11/04/06, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by christphern

They were backwards.

That's hilarious!

Neo Moonlight Knight · 11/04/06, 04:44 PM

At least they made it look cool

PrimoPiccolo · 11/05/06, 12:41 AM

Extremely cool. Saturn couldn't have pulled off timekeeping like my girl Pluto.

christphern · 11/05/06, 01:56 AM

They didn't have to make Hotaru the time guardian or anything. All they had to do is swap their senshi names, and it would have worked fine. Make Hotaru Pluto, and Setsuna Saturn. Keep everything the same, except the name.

Chris

PrimoPiccolo · 11/06/06, 03:42 PM

That actually might have worked. Certainly would have given the name Setsuna a lot more validity.

Neo Moonlight Knight · 11/06/06, 05:38 PM

I did a whole thing on this once.. It's in the Archives of my old board, The New Storm will Anime message board. I'll dig it up and post it

christphern · 11/09/06, 09:01 PM

You know, I just read something on Mercury that may explain why Takeuchi-san decided to associate her with ice. Mercury only has 1 and a half rotations in the amount of time it takes the planet to orbit the Sun. The planet takes 88 of our days to orbit the sun, and the planet takes 59 to rotate fully. So, as a result, the dark side of the planet plummets in temperature, to around -170 degrees C. That could very well be why Ami's associated with ice in the series.

Oh, and a slight side note. Venus is the hottest planet in the solar system, due to the over-active greenhouse effect of it's atmosphere. It also takes longer to rotate than it does to orbit the sun. It takes 225 of our days for it to complete it's orbit, and 243 days to rotate.

Chris

11/01/06, 03:34 PM	#1
PrimoPiccolo *Eternal* Join Date: 04/01/09 Location: 30 minutes from Morphicon Posts: 1,317	What was up with the Sailor elements? I was talking about this with my brother the other day. The elements of the Sailor Scouts were extremely varied from the planets their power was supposed to come from. Mercury's basis is water, yet Mercury is the hottest planet, being so close to the Sun. Mars' power is then fire, yet Mars itself is quite cold. Jupiter's powers already range somewhere between thunder and wood, yet neither originate on the actual planet Jupiter. And Uranus' power is ground or rock or something, while Uranus is actually one of the more watery planets in our solar system. Then there's the fact that both Mercury and Neptune intercede with the water element, so the way I thought it out, couldn't the powers have been more varied? Some of the ideas were brilliant, like Venus having love as her weapon, since the Roman goddess of love was Venus. And Pluto and Saturn's powers don't hail from elements at all, so it's not like they were tied down to anything basis-wise. In the end it doesn't bother me, but couldn't it have been done more creatively somehow?

11/03/06, 07:11 PM	#2
Neo Moonlight Knight Power Ranger Join Date: 10/29/06 Posts: 142	RE: What was up with the Sailor elements? Pluto on the Roman/Greek Mythology was the god of hell, Hades. that's why her attack is called: "Dead scream" and she wears black. But the time thing, doesn't fit her. They mixed Hades with Chronos. Saturn.. I forgot her mythology

11/04/06, 06:00 AM	#3
christphern Ranger In Training Join Date: 01/15/08 Posts: 66	RE: What was up with the Sailor elements? Saturn was the god of time, or Chronos. Pluto was the god of the underworld, or Hades. They were backwards. Chris

11/04/06, 04:44 PM	#5
Neo Moonlight Knight Power Ranger Join Date: 10/29/06 Posts: 142	RE: What was up with the Sailor elements? At least they made it look cool

11/05/06, 12:41 AM	#6
PrimoPiccolo *Eternal* Join Date: 04/01/09 Location: 30 minutes from Morphicon Posts: 1,317	RE: What was up with the Sailor elements? Extremely cool. Saturn couldn't have pulled off timekeeping like my girl Pluto.

11/05/06, 01:56 AM	#7
christphern Ranger In Training Join Date: 01/15/08 Posts: 66	RE: What was up with the Sailor elements? They didn't have to make Hotaru the time guardian or anything. All they had to do is swap their senshi names, and it would have worked fine. Make Hotaru Pluto, and Setsuna Saturn. Keep everything the same, except the name. Chris

11/06/06, 03:42 PM	#8
PrimoPiccolo *Eternal* Join Date: 04/01/09 Location: 30 minutes from Morphicon Posts: 1,317	RE: What was up with the Sailor elements? That actually might have worked. Certainly would have given the name Setsuna a lot more validity.

11/06/06, 05:38 PM	#9
Neo Moonlight Knight Power Ranger Join Date: 10/29/06 Posts: 142	RE: What was up with the Sailor elements? I did a whole thing on this once.. It's in the Archives of my old board, The New Storm will Anime message board. I'll dig it up and post it

11/09/06, 09:01 PM	#10
christphern Ranger In Training Join Date: 01/15/08 Posts: 66	RE: What was up with the Sailor elements? You know, I just read something on Mercury that may explain why Takeuchi-san decided to associate her with ice. Mercury only has 1 and a half rotations in the amount of time it takes the planet to orbit the Sun. The planet takes 88 of our days to orbit the sun, and the planet takes 59 to rotate fully. So, as a result, the dark side of the planet plummets in temperature, to around -170 degrees C. That could very well be why Ami's associated with ice in the series. Oh, and a slight side note. Venus is the hottest planet in the solar system, due to the over-active greenhouse effect of it's atmosphere. It also takes longer to rotate than it does to orbit the sun. It takes 225 of our days for it to complete it's orbit, and 243 days to rotate. Chris